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one sided article[edit]

Reading this, I can only come to the conclusion that Michael Moore never had anyone saying anything negative about him. Nothing controversial about the man, noting his particular editing skills to show his point there would be at least one or two possible points that I know of that could be inserted. As it stands, this is at best a Michael Moore bio, at worst advertising for his documentaries and his viewpoints. I think wiki should be a tad more balanced than this. 178.232.8.87 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:20, 15 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Even the bits that do criticize Moore in some way give way more weight to his rebuttals than to the criticism itself.--v/r - TP 13:55, 4 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If either of you think that criticism should be added, feel free to post what you're referring to and any documentation, here. I'd agree that it reads like a simple biography without critical excess...that's because this is supposed to mimic a classical encyclopedic entry, not a political diatribe. Things like racial opinions and gender opinions are not relevant to a historical placement of the person, unless there are some particular actions or lies that these opinions informed. So, unless you have some example of Moore ignoring facts (which should be put into the Wiki entries for the works, themselves, not littering his bio as well), or in Moore committing some actual act that reveals a motivation that you're accusing him of; unless you have something actually said or done (and not just something one person has claimed), it's irrelevant to this particular article. Court proceedings? Multiple witnesses/accusers? Please do tell. This is the place to work it out.Bainst (talk) 20:37, 14 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
With Wikipedia increasingly restricting its "reliable" sources to left-wing publications, it is increasingly difficult to find criticism of Michael Moore than can be sourced according to Wikipedia's so-called "standards." Regardless, this article is blatantly one-sided, and the lack of criticism of Moore should be an embarrassment to any publication that purports to achieve balance in its topic coverage. 68.212.198.21 (talk) 22:22, 24 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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<ref># {{Cite web|date=2017-03-11|title=In liberal Hollywood, a conservative minority faces backlash in the age of Trump|url=https://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-conservatives-hollywood-20170311-story.html|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[Los Angeles Times]]|language=en-US|quote="films by left-wing documentarian Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite web|date=2020-05-26|title=Michael Moore film Planet of the Humans removed from YouTube|url=http://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/may/26/michael-moore-film-planet-of-the-humans-removed-from-youtube|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[The Guardian]]|language=en|quote="who built his reputation as a left-wing filmmaker"}} # {{Cite web|title=Michael Moore rallies Occupy Oakland protests.|url=https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna45111386|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[NBC News]]|date=October 31, 2011 |language=en|quote="Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite news|date=2016-10-19|title=Michael Moore in Trumpland: left-wing filmmaker releases surprise movie ahead of US election|language=en-GB|work=The Telegraph|url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/10/19/michael-moore-in-trumpland-left-wing-filmmaker-releases-surprise/ |archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20220111/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/10/19/michael-moore-in-trumpland-left-wing-filmmaker-releases-surprise/ |archive-date=January 11, 2022 |url-access=subscription |url-status=live|access-date=2021-05-04|issn=0307-1235|quote="Left-wing filmmaker releases"}}{{cbignore}} # {{Cite news|last=Jenkins|first=Holman W. Jr.|date=2020-06-05|title=Opinion {{!}} Michael Moore's Inconvenient Half-Truth|language=en-US|work=[[The Wall Street Journal]]|url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-moores-inconvenient-half-truth-11591400530|access-date=2021-05-04|issn=0099-9660|quote="Most of what left-wing film producer Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite web|title=Eastwood: 'I Am Certainly Not Affiliated with Mr. Obama' - Politics News - ABC News Radio|url=http://abcnewsradioonline.com/politics-news/eastwood-i-am-certainly-not-affiliated-with-mr-obama.html|access-date=2021-05-04|website=abcnewsradioonline.com|language=en|quote=Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore tweeted|archive-date=June 24, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210624201635/http://abcnewsradioonline.com/politics-news/eastwood-i-am-certainly-not-affiliated-with-mr-obama.html|url-status=dead}} # {{Cite news|last=Scheck|first=Frank|date=2008-10-07|title="American Carol" an unfunny political spoof|language=en|work=[[Reuters]]|url=https://www.reuters.com/article/us-film-carol-idUSTRE4963C820081007|access-date=2021-05-04|quote="left-wing politics and provocateur filmmaker Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite web|title=Michael Moore film on U.S. drugmakers|url=https://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2004/12/22/Michael-Moore-film-on-US-drugmakers/48281103737696/|access-date=2021-05-04|website=UPI|language=en|quote="Left-wing moviemaker Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite web|last=Scheck|first=Frank|date=2017-08-10|title='The Terms of My Surrender': Theater Review|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/michael-moore-terms-of-my-surrender-1028191/|access-date=2021-05-04|website=The Hollywood Reporter|language=en-US|quote="left-wing provocateur/filmmaker"}} # {{Cite web|date=2009-09-24|title=Moore's 'Capitalism' off to profitable start|url=https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/09/moores-capitalism-off-to-profitable-start.html|access-date=2021-05-04|website=LA Times Blogs - Company Town|language=en-US|quote="provocative left-wing filmmaker"}} # {{Cite web|date=2017-02-27|title=Michael Moore has a plan to 'make Trump toast again'|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michael-moore-donald-trump-get-rid-impeach-us-president-10-point-plan-a7601486.html|archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20220514/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michael-moore-donald-trump-get-rid-impeach-us-president-10-point-plan-a7601486.html|archive-date=May 14, 2022|url-access=subscription|url-status=live|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[The Independent]]|language=en|quote=Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore}} # {{Cite web|date=2015-03-25|title=Closer Look at Michael Moore's New Film 'Sicko'|url=https://www.foxnews.com/story/closer-look-at-michael-moores-new-film-sicko|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[Fox News]]|language=en-US|quote="Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite web|last=Morris|first=Valerie|date=2020-01-07|title=The Memo: Will Iran crisis sideline impeachment process?|url=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/477044-the-memo-will-iran-crisis-sideline-impeachment-process|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[The Hill (newspaper)|The Hill]]|language=en|quote="left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite web|last=Sink|first=Justin|date=2012-01-11|title=Gingrich not backing down from his criticism of Romney's record at Bain|url=https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/203667-gingrich-campaign-says-no-backing-down-from-bain-criticism|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[The Hill (newspaper)|The Hill]]|language=en|quote="[Michael Moore] the left-wing filmmaker and provocateur"}} # {{Cite web|date=2009-06-26|title=More nominations means redoing the Oscar math|url=https://www.mercurynews.com/2009/06/26/more-nominations-means-redoing-the-oscar-math/|access-date=2021-05-04|website=The Mercury News|language=en-US|quote="The fiery left-wing documentarian"}} # {{Cite web|title=Conservatives counter Moore's film festival|url=http://www.today.com/popculture/conservatives-counter-moores-film-festival-wbna8510677|access-date=2021-05-04|website=TODAY.com|date=July 8, 2005 |language=en|quote="A film festival being organized by left-wing director Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite web|last=Alexander|first=Bryan|title=Michael Moore: R rating for 'Where to Invade Next' is 'political'|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/11/08/michael-moore-r-rating-where-invade-next-political/75416814/|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[USA Today]]|language=en-US|quote="Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite web|date=2017-10-30|title=Trump slams Michael Moore over "sloppy" Broadway show, but Moore claps right back|url=https://www.salon.com/2017/10/30/trump-slams-michael-moore-over-sloppy-broadway-show-but-moore-claps-right-back/|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[Salon.com|Salon]]|language=en|quote="the vocally left-wing filmmaker"}} # {{Cite news|last=Allen-Mills|first=Tony|title=Tables turned on Fahrenheit 9/11's maker|newspaper=[[The Times]]|language=en|url=https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tables-turned-on-fahrenheit-911s-maker-c6l7lkfg9fg|access-date=2021-05-04|issn=0140-0460|quote="Michael Moore, the celebrated left-wing film-maker"}} # {{Cite web|last=Levitz|first=Eric|title=Trump's New Strategy Suggests He Wants to Be President — of a Cable-News Network|url=https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/08/donald-trump-strategy-cable-network.html|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[New York (magazine)|New York Intelligencer]]|date=August 17, 2016 |language=en-us|quote="left-wing documentarian Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite news|last=Paulson|first=Michael|date=2017-05-01|title=Michael Moore to Take Aim at Trump, on Broadway|language=en-US|work=[[The New York Times]]|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/theater/michael-moore-broadway-the-terms-of-my-surrender-donald-trump.html|access-date=2021-05-04|issn=0362-4331|quote="This left-wing provocateur is not shy about his agenda"}} # {{Cite web|title=Michael Moore: 'American exceptionalism is the death of us'|url=https://apnews.com/article/c5b338806c874fe793dfadfca9985773|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[Associated Press|AP News]]|quote="Moore, that passionately voluble critic and left-wing icon"}} # {{Cite web|title=Why Did No One See Michael Moore's 'Fahrenheit 11/9'?|url=https://www.playboy.com/read/michael-moore-fahrenheit-119-trump|access-date=2021-05-04|website=www.playboy.com|language=en-US|quote="muckraking left-wing cult figure"}} # {{Cite news|last=Freeman|first=James|date=2020-04-29|title=Opinion {{!}} The Seinfeld Strategy for Climate Change|language=en-US|work=[[The Wall Street Journal]]|url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-seinfeld-strategy-for-climate-change-11588184917|access-date=2021-05-04|issn=0099-9660|quote="Leftist filmmaker Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite web|date=2017-02-19|title=No, Trump critics. It's highly unlikely he has committed treason|url=https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-russia-treason-20170220-story.html|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[Los Angeles Times]]|language=en-US|quote="It’s not just left-wing celebrities like film director Michael Moore"}} # {{Cite web|date=2020-10-02|title=Michael Moore claims Trump might be faking Covid diagnosis|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/michael-moore-donald-trump-fake-coronavirus-b750245.html|archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20220514/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/michael-moore-donald-trump-fake-coronavirus-b750245.html|archive-date=May 14, 2022|url-access=subscription|url-status=live|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[The Independent]]|language=en|quote="left-wing activist"}}</ref>

.... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 23:21, 2 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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*{{Cite web|date=2020-05-26|title=Michael Moore film Planet of the Humans removed from YouTube|url=http://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/may/26/michael-moore-film-planet-of-the-humans-removed-from-youtube|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[The Guardian]]|language=en|quote="who built his reputation as a left-wing filmmaker"}}
*{{Cite web|title=Michael Moore rallies Occupy Oakland protests.|url=https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna45111386|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[NBC News]]|date=October 31, 2011 |language=en|quote="Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore"}}
*{{Cite news|date=2016-10-19|title=Michael Moore in Trumpland: left-wing filmmaker releases surprise movie ahead of US election|language=en-GB|work=The Telegraph|url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/10/19/michael-moore-in-trumpland-left-wing-filmmaker-releases-surprise/ |archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20220111/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/10/19/michael-moore-in-trumpland-left-wing-filmmaker-releases-surprise/ |archive-date=January 11, 2022 |url-access=subscription |url-status=live|access-date=2021-05-04|issn=0307-1235|quote="Left-wing filmmaker releases"}}{{cbignore}}
*{{Cite news|last=Jenkins|first=Holman W. Jr.|date=2020-06-05|title=Opinion {{!}} Michael Moore's Inconvenient Half-Truth|language=en-US|work=[[The Wall Street Journal]]|url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-moores-inconvenient-half-truth-11591400530|access-date=2021-05-04|issn=0099-9660|quote="Most of what left-wing film producer Michael Moore"}}
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*{{Cite web|date=2009-09-24|title=Moore's 'Capitalism' off to profitable start|url=https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/09/moores-capitalism-off-to-profitable-start.html|access-date=2021-05-04|website=LA Times Blogs - Company Town|language=en-US|quote="provocative left-wing filmmaker"}}
*{{Cite web|date=2017-02-27|title=Michael Moore has a plan to 'make Trump toast again'|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michael-moore-donald-trump-get-rid-impeach-us-president-10-point-plan-a7601486.html|archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20220514/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michael-moore-donald-trump-get-rid-impeach-us-president-10-point-plan-a7601486.html|archive-date=May 14, 2022|url-access=subscription|url-status=live|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[The Independent]]|language=en|quote=Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore}}
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*{{Cite web|last=Morris|first=Valerie|date=2020-01-07|title=The Memo: Will Iran crisis sideline impeachment process?|url=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/477044-the-memo-will-iran-crisis-sideline-impeachment-process|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[The Hill (newspaper)|The Hill]]|language=en|quote="left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore"}}
*{{Cite web|last=Sink|first=Justin|date=2012-01-11|title=Gingrich not backing down from his criticism of Romney's record at Bain|url=https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/203667-gingrich-campaign-says-no-backing-down-from-bain-criticism|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[The Hill (newspaper)|The Hill]]|language=en|quote="[Michael Moore] the left-wing filmmaker and provocateur"}}
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*{{Cite web|title=Conservatives counter Moore's film festival|url=http://www.today.com/popculture/conservatives-counter-moores-film-festival-wbna8510677|access-date=2021-05-04|website=TODAY.com|date=July 8, 2005 |language=en|quote="A film festival being organized by left-wing director Michael Moore"}}
*{{Cite web|last=Alexander|first=Bryan|title=Michael Moore: R rating for 'Where to Invade Next' is 'political'|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/11/08/michael-moore-r-rating-where-invade-next-political/75416814/|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[USA Today]]|language=en-US|quote="Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore"}}
*{{Cite web|date=2017-10-30|title=Trump slams Michael Moore over "sloppy" Broadway show, but Moore claps right back|url=https://www.salon.com/2017/10/30/trump-slams-michael-moore-over-sloppy-broadway-show-but-moore-claps-right-back/|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[Salon.com|Salon]]|language=en|quote="the vocally left-wing filmmaker"}}
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*{{Cite web|title=Michael Moore: 'American exceptionalism is the death of us'|url=https://apnews.com/article/c5b338806c874fe793dfadfca9985773|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[Associated Press|AP News]]|quote="Moore, that passionately voluble critic and left-wing icon"}}
*{{Cite web|title=Why Did No One See Michael Moore's 'Fahrenheit 11/9'?|url=https://www.playboy.com/read/michael-moore-fahrenheit-119-trump|access-date=2021-05-04|website=www.playboy.com|language=en-US|quote="muckraking left-wing cult figure"}}
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*{{Cite web|date=2017-02-19|title=No, Trump critics. It's highly unlikely he has committed treason|url=https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-russia-treason-20170220-story.html|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[Los Angeles Times]]|language=en-US|quote="It’s not just left-wing celebrities like film director Michael Moore"}}
*{{Cite web|date=2020-10-02|title=Michael Moore claims Trump might be faking Covid diagnosis|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/michael-moore-donald-trump-fake-coronavirus-b750245.html|archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20220514/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/michael-moore-donald-trump-fake-coronavirus-b750245.html|archive-date=May 14, 2022|url-access=subscription|url-status=live|access-date=2021-05-04|website=[[The Independent]]|language=en|quote="left-wing activist"}}
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.....0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 23:27, 2 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Negative Talk[edit]

Reading some of the more negative comments used against Michael Moore, someone might come to the conclusion that many of the people attacking this article would never have had anything positive to say. While critical remarks must be allowed, should they not be fair and reasonable? Since this is an article about Michael Moore, his documentaries and viewpoints - why allow it to become a platform for some of the more dodgy or ill-founded comments that are out there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.166.254 (talk) 12:43, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Flak as a control tactic[edit]

Is balance the main issue here? For is not Michael Moore's real 'crime' that of beating the right-wing at their own game? So when he starts to get some hits on target, out comes the flak to shoot down him and his message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.103.95 (talk) 20:37, 6 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]